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Steel boat recommendations

by SVAndante » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:37 pm

Dreaming about a steel boat. She's rolled steel, no hard chine. Raised salon/flush deck type. Say 39-43 feet. Ready to take on high latitudes but pretty look at. Say in the $120-180,000 range. . .

Not finding much stateside in that genre. Any recommendations for brokers in Europe? Someone that could send us detailed photos, etc. to see if we should go look. See so many listings there on allboat.com but many don't have pictures, layouts or a good idea of what's what.

Thanks,
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by hirover » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:05 pm

Love the Koopman Boats. Believe they are out
of Holland. Quite a range of boats in your price range.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by s/v Faith » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:19 pm

Just posting to make sure this thread is still visible.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by workinonit » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:44 pm

You could try Canada. Alternatively, certainly europe, there are pretty neat dutch and german boats around.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by Robert » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:47 am

You can find a Steel Boat or two listed for Sale at the web site www.riodulcechisme.com

You could arrange for haul out, inspection, survey, ..............etc repairs at Abel's Boat Yard.

Problem will be to find a SAMS fully certified Surveyor with experience inspecting a steel boat in Rio Dulce Guatemala. Check with your intended Insurance Company first before making arrangements wth a Surveyor. Not all Surveyors in Rio are fully certified. Contact SAMS directly to verify which are and are not fully certified.

Repairs can be made a lot cheaper in Rio Dulce compared to anywhere in Europe.

Other steel boats can be found in Curacao, Panama, or Colombia. Same Surveyor issues apply.

Do not limit your search to Europe.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by helmsmatt » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:24 pm

There is one for sale, as you describe, in Indian Harbour Beach, Fl at Telemar Bay Marina.
Name of boat is Ascension,
I know little about it .
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by healer52 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:33 am

Does it have to be steel?


http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2001/Po ... nEKcxCRJX8


Is one I've thought of.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by sailandoar » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:06 am

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1983/Sc ... qAJmmRDtAc

The yacht PAGAN is a 49-feet steel schooner swing keel Boat of the DAMIEN II design

She was commissioned in 1983 following the design of the famous yacht designer Michel Joubert and constructed at the META shipyard in France and put into service.

She has been schooner rigged with oversized rigging and short powerful masts and spreaders. This set up together with a schooner rig enables easy handling of sails in all conditions with a small crew offering maximum safety at sea
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by harshdodhiaa » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:22 am

There is an advantage with steel in terms of hitting coral or rocks versus sand, in that steel may well withstand it. Sure I guess some will say that should not happen but charts are often unreliable.

2 However seemingly minor damage has to be dealt with in both cases - rust versus osmosis.

3 Repairs are relatively easily done by any welder.
However properly protecting from rust is difficult and relatively sophisticated but then so is osmosis protection.

In smaller sizes like less than 40 ft the hulls tend to be heavy without the centre of gravity being lower.

Often they are homebuilt and finished and it shows.

In short, they can be ok if you expect to hit coral or rocks, & consider that their life cycle can be limited. So can that of other boats if you consider the value of replacing different components or say proper osmosis treatment which may be uneconomic.

So an older boat may not be cheap when the value after repairs is considered steel or not.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by brentswain » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:29 pm

As Bernard Moitessier pointed out, the trick is very thick paint. Paint inside is the most important, ( and the most frequently overlooked) as you don't get a second stab at it. Screwups on outside paint can be far more easily rectified..
Other than that ,super clean steel under the paint is very important.
My current 31 ft steel twin keeler is 33 years old , and I have never sandblasted her .She has mostly her original epoxy on, over 30 gallons of it, and she is in great shape .
There is no better bedding compound than welding.It never gets old and leaks .
The peace of mind sailing at hull speed on a foggy moonless night, having a steel hull under you,is about as much peace of mind as you can get ,underway in such conditions.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by brentswain » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:32 pm

Ultra sound units, which can measure the hull thickness from outside, anywhere, have never been cheaper( around $125)
No steel boat builder, owner or buyer should be without one.
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Re: Steel boat recommendations

by brentswain » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:33 pm

Search http://groups.yahoo.com/group/origamiboats
for a decades long goldmine of info on steel boats .
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